Why Do Christians Kill for Their Government?
Laurence M. Vance Breaks It Down... Etienne brings the memes
By Laurence M. Vance via LewRockwell.com, Memes added after by Etienne de la Boetie2.
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When I first wrote (“Murderers for Trump”) about President Trump ordering air strikes against “narco-terrorists” on boats in international waters in the Caribbean Sea, there had been three “lethal kinetic strikes.” The last time I checked, there have now been 21 such air strikes in the Caribbean Sea and the Pacific Ocean, with 83 people killed.
The Pentagon has not acknowledged what aircraft the military is using to conduct the strikes, but it is supposed to include MQ-9 Reaper drones armed with Hellfire missiles, AC-130J gunships, and F-35 fighter jets.
Because there was no search, seizure, arrest, indictment, arraignment, prosecution, trial, conviction, or sentencing; no proof of what exactly was on these ships; no threat to the United States by the boats or their occupants; no death-penalty offenses (although Trump and some Republicans would like there to be a death penalty for drug offenses); no boats were near American territory; and because Trump took it upon himself to be judge, jury, and executioner; I concluded then, and conclude now, that all of the air strikes are simply extrajudicial murder.
Many of those in the miliary who participated in this extrajudicial murder are no doubt professing Christians. According to the Pew Research Center, 62 percent of Americans identify as Christian. The percentage of military personnel who identify as Christian is higher than the general population. This has been estimated to be between 65 and 75 percent. The percentage of veterans who identify as Christian has been estimated to be 91 percent. That number seems a little high, but the point is simply that a majority of military personnel identify as Christian.
We can be certain, then that professing Christians were involved in the extrajudicial murder of the people on these boats. Just like we can be certain that professing Christians help to carry out the death and destruction meted out by the U.S. military in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea, and all the minor military operations that the U.S. military has been involved in since World War II: Bosnia, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Panama, Somalia.
So, my question is a simple one: Why do Christians kill for their government?
Christians are told to “obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29), to “recompense to no man evil for evil” (Romans 12:17), to “live peaceably with all men” (Romans 12:18), to not kill (Romans 13:9), to not “render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:15), and that “the weapons of our warfare are not carnal” (2 Corinthians 10:4).
So, why do Christians join the military and so easily and callously kill for their government?
There is no draft. There is no universal military service. No American is forced to join the military and kill on command. The fact that the Bible admonishes Christians to “submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake” (1 Peter 2:13) and to “let every soul be subject unto the higher powers” (Romans 13:1) has nothing to do with anything.
If the government were to come to a Christian and say: “Put on this uniform, take this gun, go to such and such address across town, and start shooting people,” I can’t imagine any Christian not being horrified and refusing to do it. But if the government comes to a Christian and says: “If you voluntarily, of your own freewill, join the military, you will be required to put on a uniform, take a gun, go to such and such country, and start shooting people,” then Christians line up at their local military recruiter’s office and say “sign me up.” Why is it that Christians will defend the foreign military action by saying “I was just following orders,” but not the domestic one?
Isn’t it strange that Americans only object to the “I was just following orders” defense—a defense that was used to no avail by Nazis at Nuremberg—when soldiers from other countries attempt to use it?
Christian soldiers who kill for their government are guilty of idolatry. “Thou shalt have no other gods before me” (Exodus 20:3), the Bible says. They have made a god out of the state. They think the state can sanctify murder.
The U.S. military is a giant killing machine. Christians who join the military will be expected to unconditionally follow orders and kill on command to help carry out the U.S. government’s reckless, belligerent, and interventionist U.S. foreign policy. They will not be defending America or its freedoms.
No Christian should kill for his government. No matter how loud the government screams “narco-terrorist.”
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It is one of the most profound questions touching on the intersection of faith, ethics, and "civic duty." Believers' primary identity is as citizens of God's kingdom - our trust is in Him and His provision.
Throughout history, Christians have served in the military, believing they are fulfilling a role in "protecting their nation" and "upholding justice" (even as it is often promoted as exporting Democracy"). Others choose conscientious objection, believing that following Christ means abstaining from violence.
As Christians, our ultimate allegiance is to God's eternal kingdom."...our citizenship is in heaven..." (Philippians 3:20). Our values and actions are to reflect the character and teachings of Jesus, prioritizing love, peace, and reconciliation - peace and non-violence. Those who choose to avoid service altogether to refrain from violating these principles and to retain a clear conscience (Romans 13:1-4) , honoring the biblical teachings as authoritative and applicable to their lives (Matthew 5:38-44).
Ostensibly, civil governments are established (declared into existence, supported by sacred human documents and the force of violence to those who do not conform to its stated dictates, laws and customs) among other reasons, to maintain order and justice but this does not mean that every action taken by a government is just or ethical. Believers must exercise discernment, seeking God's wisdom in how to engage with civic-derived activities.
Like ANY decision, the decision to join up and bear arms as ordered (even though there is in the UCMJ provisions not to proceed if what is being ordered is not compliant with UCMJ) requires prayerful consideration, seeking the word of God & God's guidance via His Holy Spirit, the counsel of those valued mentors and friends in our circle, and being true to our convictions about & in Christ.
Grace and understanding are essential, as we see that believers may & have, historically, arrived at differing conclusions based on their interpretation of Scripture and their personal relationship with God (as well as customs and protocols specific to the "brand name" of the organized denomination or non--denominational 501ce Non-Profit "business" that has already, by incorporation, submitted itself to the jurisdiction of the government), surrendering their God-given autonomy as representatives of the kingdom of God on the earth.
A key in evaluating such an important decision (or in "judging" the behavior of others who choose participation and the consequences of that decision with which they must live), should be grounded in the love and grace of Jesus Christ, allowing His Spirit to guide decisions, actions & attitudes.
As a military brat, having lived "in the fortress" during the Viet Nam (recalling the implications of the prior conflicts which many of us realized were staged for control of routes, seizure of resources, location of strategic assets, regime changes or coups, etc. or to install central banking systems, create a test model for application elsewhere, etc.) undeclared blood bath, watching friends and loved ones divided or deceased prematurely, or injured or psychologically changed, seeing how it affected us and our friends and loved ones, I would ask those who are of the faith to consider whether God simply ACCOMMODATED the desire of humans for "civil governance" structures beyond individual or familial accountability to God, authorized to act on His behalf to settle civil conflicts, or if by accommodation (understanding the nature of what was being undertaken and its impact on His creation and people) He evidenced for them their folly, that was instead mistaken for approval. The conditions often outlined in Romans 13 are in fact one of the clearest definitions of what (minimally) civil governments must be about and how they conduct themselves -- by definition, not a single one has complied and in fact have leveraged a mistaken interpretation of this passage (and one in Peter) as carte blanche to engage in criminal conflicts that violate human respect and dignity while bolstering the growth and eventual dominance of the military industrial complex over nations - eclipsing even the "boundaries" set forth in founding documents regarding the scope and "limitations" or "qualifications" for its existence and operation.
In an ideal world NOT "managed" by oligarchical forces who have successfully infiltrated and corrupted the faith, the understanding of our roles as sovereign individuals and the acts of obedience or defiance of God's ways and the accompanying consequences, we would do well to consider what the "fruit" of supporting such actions has produced of any value -- perhaps the "perception" of "safety" from a civil government apparatus that is at best a delusion is sufficient for those captured and help hostage to their willing surrender of personal agency and their lack of stamina in holding fast to the principles and dictates of a gracious, loving HOLY God who has more than enough reasons to repeat His judgement as in the days of Noah (as we see we have revived) in contemporary times, and certainly, the killing fields are crying out for His justice and the recompense for the crimes committed and excused and even glorified by those who hate and fear and desire power more than the upholding of love and peace -- AT ANY COST -- even their own lives. Is losing your life to defend another's right to live not a worthy cause when we are already standing as eternal beings vouchsafed in our God and destined to be forever with Him? Is that not sufficient for refusing to shed blood and to support the machine that is being used to cull and enslave the population with a view to global dominance in our lifetime?
The answer is simple they have been misinformed , and mind controlled in both their religious beliefs and the false patriotism instilled in the false education given by a controlled illegit government that has been a complete fraud since 1868 , and by 1871 replaced the Constitution with a corporate fraud and since owned by globalist elite financiers. The entire "end times " Revelation was stolen from writings from 500 BC from a female Oracle in what is now Italy , copies of her 3 surviving books ended up in the secret Vatican archives , like 500,000 other important elements of 10,000 years of human history , in 20 miles of hallways underneath, why do they hide it all , what gives them the power or right? This also answers all questions.