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LD50 Values circa 1984: (the ratio of how much chemical it takes to kill 50% of the test animals. The higher the number the safer the chemical).

Caffiene 399

Glyphosate 23,000

Too bad animal testing wasn't as discredited back then as it is now...

We foresters were trained to trust glyphosate-based herbicides. Hundreds died from cancer. I doubt anyone has ever tried to calculate how many square miles of US forest land or private corporate tree plantations have been contaminated.

I met a forester who graduated from the UofMN School of Forestry exactly 10 years before me. He was taught the same curriculum and had most of the same professors. He had pancreatic cancer.

I explained the four big lies I spent 4 years and $15,000 to be taught by the UofMonsanto's School of Forestry. Glyphosate safety was one of them. Another was "the solution to pollution is dilution." Another was "multi-use doctrine" that forests and the natural world could be made to support every goal: preservation, resource extraction, recreation, and more, in a mutually compatible way. I can't remember the last one - but they all served the corporate agenda.

It was just a sop to try to keep the clear cutting going that everyone hated back then... and still hate today. There were even extensive discussions about creating "no rescue zones" in National Forests in the more remote areas. Which was sort of moot because folks who shun the parks and go into the National Forests (me) don't always tell people so they aren't going to get rescued. Back then we didn't have cell phones.

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